Wednesday, December 13, 2023

Schaeffer and Trinity

 In He is There and He Is Not Silent, Schaeffer makes the remark:

Every once in a while in my discussions someone asks how I can believe in the Trinity. My answer is always the same. I would still be an agnostic if there was no Trinity, because there would be no answers. Without the high order of personal unity and diversity as given in the Trinity,  there are no answers. (p. 288 Crossway compilation)

I have puzzled over this. Why would there be no answers?

I asked a friend who knew Schaeffer well, who answered:

You are not the first to scratch your head about this claim, and I myself find it quite strange and do not claim to be able to interpret it for you, or to believe it myself.

     I have asked him to explain it and heard others do the same. I think the main thing in his mind was that he saw in the trinity that neither unity nor diversity, neither the One or the Many, was ultimate and so would obliterate the other. They were both anchored in the transcendent God. He saw secular philosophy as unable to resist getting pulled into one or the other of these dead ends -- of only unity (Parmenides) or only particularity (Heraclitus). I certainly see his point here because neither of these dead ends allows any serious understanding of the complexity and wonder of the human condition. But I can't help wondering if there was no trinity, whether I might be more likely to be a Jewish theist than an agnostic, but that question would be in practicality, so highly subjective as a counter-factual puzzle.

     It all seems a tricky question to say what part of Xn truth, if removed, would make me abandon my faith, maybe not always helpful  -- although Paul said it about the resurrection of Jesus. I heard Schaeffer also say that he could not be a Christian if God had not himself shut the door finally on the ark at the start of the flood. He felt that to ask Noah to do it would have been too cruel and inappropriate, given what would happen to everyone else who was not in the ark. On the other hand I asked him once if he were to ever have macro-evolution demonstrated to have been true beyond any doubt, would he leave his faith as a result? He said, "No, but I would have to rethink a great deal."

     To get back to the trinity, but leave Schaeffer's discussion, I found Tim Keller's insight intriguing when he said that only if God is trinity can love be part of his character, i.e. who he is intrinsically. If God was only One, there would have been no one for him to love unless it was someone whom God had created. If God was only One, his main attribute of character would have been power -- who might have chosen to do loving things, but they would be arbitrary and not grounded in his being and he might have easily done the opposite.
There are few useful thoughts here, and I think he's spotted the nub of it: Who God Is is immovably basic to what is independently (and self-existentially) that is, necessarily, real.
 
What then is the Triune God?
  • He is demonstrably personal
  • He communicates: the three persons of the trinity are in constant communication for the other: communication and relationship are basic. It is also real, significant and true.
  • There is inherent diversity and unity, inescapably, as per my friend's observation.
  • God's acts flow directly from who he is, with no other reference.
 Solo gods, Monist gods and Monist non-gods have none of this, and leave man's 'mannishness' ungrounded, arbitrary and finally insignificant.

What about Yahweh in the OT? Is he not a 'solo-god'? After all, he says he is one and there is no other.
 
I think not for a couple of reasons.
 
He interacts with the creation, in relationship: Genesis 3:8, for example; Genesis 1 itself hints at Trinity: God who speaks, the Word which (who?) creates, the Spirit who 'hovers'. Even if I am wrong, this doesn't seem like a 'solo-god'.

The theophanies throughout the OT suggest God in some form, often human, in his creation. Again, not triune per se, but not 'solo' in our terms here either.

What the Trinity does bring is grounding of communication, of community, of fellowship, of love, in what is basically so. Everything, including our existential questions and dilemmas is resolved, finally, in this.

So our echo of these acts of love and fellowship as beings in his image are real, and join us to him in sharing this reality. Our love is significant and not derivative: of 'nature', of material, of an arbitrary and not essential act of God. Our decisions, communications, community are real and a basic part of us. The only real questions as to our 'meaning' our significance and the moment of our communication have answers. What is life about? It is about love in fellowship with our Creator. But it is also about doing real things in the real creation which itself has substance as the field of our fellowship with God.

And our creator does not 'need' us, because he had these characteristics  prior to creation and did not need a creation to exhibit, generate or reify them.

Monists (whether impersonal spiritists, materialists or solo-god-ists) have none of this, because, everything finally is the same. There is no real connection or movement of mind. There is no final significance possible and any personal solo-god depends on the creation for realization of anything inter-personal (that is, if person-hood in this landscape is really real). Against this, our creator God is utterly independent of creation; it was made not for him, existentially, but for our Lord in which we are to enjoy him forever.

The real three-in-one God is not thus bound.

By the way, my link to Schaeffer's book, is not a blanket endorsement of the Gospel Coalition. I reject a number of points of their theology.

Another article on Schaeffer's philosophy.
 

Wednesday, December 6, 2023

I believe in science

From time to time you may meet a non-believer who stoically claims to not be 'religious' because they 'believe in science'!

(This is often punctuated with the triumphant superiority of an exclamation mark!)

And, this is just what we want to hear.

Here's the pattern of your response, something along the lines of:

Oh, and is that claim itself a scientific statement? Can you prove that you believe in 'science' when most scientists over history have been mostly wrong?

You can also explore why they believe in science, when they have to trust in the ability of human reason to provide a valid means of reliable inquiry into the world outside of the person inquiring.

That is, what is the basis for confidence in a chance assembly of molecules having any reliability in assessing the nature of other chance assemblies of molecules, both of which have no external source of person-hood: it must be merely an epiphenomenon of matter?

It is very bold to make such a claim that your brain, the result of chance constrained only by reproductive success is useful for anything more than reproductive success.

See:

Reasonable Faith's article

Bethinking's article

Craig at Biola's blog

Doyle's article.

Now, on the other hand, we Christians have complete confidence in the rational accessibility of the natural world. The creation account in Genesis 1, and it's NT follow-up in John 1:1-3, 10 provide the basis for such confidence.

Sunday, December 3, 2023

Chris Tomlin Wrecks Christian Theology

 Now that's a title to attract clicks!

The lyrics in question are (from Amazing Grace (My Chains Are Gone) ):

The earth shall soon dissolve like snowThe sun forbear to shineBut God, who called me here belowWill be forever mine, will be forever mineYou are forever mine
They aren't Christian!

Well, maybe I'm reading too much into them, but they strike me as having a definite neoplatonic flavour (neoplatonic eschatology is not a Good Thing!).

The earth shall not 'soon dissolve like snow' and the sun forebear to shine.

And the following lines seem to envisage a disembodied 'heaven'.

No, not Christian.

God promises a New Heaven and a New Earth! We will be embodied with 'spiritual bodies'.

Revelation 21.

The story of the Bible is the re-creation of the world where we his people are finally conformed to his image and Christ's triumph over sin is consummated.
 
The New Jerusalem comes down from heaven to earth as the great marker of renewal!

We will be forever his!

Perhaps we should sing;
The earth shall soon dissolve like snow
as God makes all anew
and we shall live before his face
and always know his joy
and always know his joy.

Saturday, December 2, 2023

Science and Christian faith?

Common detractions from Christian faith in relation to science is that faith prevents science.

Not so.

John Lennox has a great video on this.

In brief, because the cosmos has its source in intelligent cause: the agent being the Creator, of course, we are confident it is purposeful and efficient: in short, designed.

Thus exploration of it will bear fruit in real knowledge and we are confident to embark on exploration of anything and everything knowing that we will gain objective, true knowledge of the structure, operation and purpose of that thing.

Our faith in (natural) science arises because of our confidence in an external creator of a uniformity of natural causes in an open system (Schaeffer's term in his trilogy).