Sunday, March 24, 2024

In my small corner

Our church has just started a monthly segment at our 'youth' service called 'In my small corner'.

This is a cross between a Q&A and a time of sharing of conversations had.

The first 7 'conversations' will be the 7 basic questions that a Christian must be able to answer to follow Peter in 1 Peter 3:15.

  1. Why are you a Christian?
  2. Why do you read the Bible?
  3. Why do you attend church?
  4. Don't all religions teach the same thing?
  5. That's good if its your truth, but I'm spiritual without that/its not for me.
  6. How can a God of love permit so much evil and suffering?
  7. Hasn't science disproved the Bible?

From this point people will be invited to relate a conversation they've had and how they deal with it, or how they might have done so. A short discussion may follow.

So, here would be my first one:

Last evening I was talking to a man who was unpersuaded by the 'moral' argument for God. He insisted that the only thing he did was what made him happy and didn't offend against the law or other people.

He put everything down to social structures that had evolved.

I tried to bat back every response, I used examples of the Holocaust, Isis, Crime cartels and Hamas, and we had a good talk for a long time, but what would you have said?

A few things we want to do with this segment:

  • Get people used to talking about their faith and its implications
  • Show that they don't have to 'win' every encounter (Peter tells us to explain our 'why' not win the argument)
  • Discuss responses, and use these for teaching points at another time
  • Stimulate conversation over coffee later
  • Encourage reading of relevant books/watch videos
  • Encourage thoughtful  reading of the Bible.

Sunday, March 10, 2024

Science and the Bible, or Science v the Bible?

All intellectual endeavor starts with a conception of the world. If that conception is not aligned with the world as it truly is, it fails to enable, or even allow, proper examination of the world. By proper I mean, in a manner that gives true knowledge of the discretely objective world. For instance,
 
> the ancients and pagans generally entertained fictitious occasionalist (look it up) gods contained by the cosmos that were fickle derivations of man at his stupidest, even the fates, that seemed to be over them also seemed to be contained by the cosmos.

> animists as a type of pagan had gods that were enemies and the world was their playground: again, fickle, needing to be appeased, usually by human suffering and sacrifice (oops, we do that today with abortion). It was spooksville all round.

> Aristotle had a view that made the world impossible to truly explore.
 
> Plato too, for that matter, and the
 
> German idealists more or less the same (we are now entering a time that inherits their subjectivism and undoes science). 
 
> Islam views it as subject to a capricious god, making pursuit of knowledge gained by study of the world impossible.
 
> Eastern monism, broadly speaking, reduces the world to a figment, so science is irrelevant, so science is irrelevant and because 'god' is everything, impossible, and
 
> materialism reduces it to chance material conjunctions, or 'dirt' for short, eliminating any hope that a mind that resulted from such random events would have anything of value to say about anything.
 
Darwin also noted this risk, but he nevertheless went on to undermine himself, sitting on the branch he was sawing off.
 
The Christian understanding of the world is utterly different, and thus underpins the rise of modern science, explicitly.
 
The description of the creation in Genesis 1 and 2 gives us this: The world (the cosmos, really) is separate from God, and brought into existence with coherent purpose. At the same time God was active and present in the world, as Creator, not creature.
 
The creation described, as analyzed below was set in the world we are in, indicated by the 'days' of creation making what it teaches set in and about reality (indeed it 'grounds reality'): the reality that we are in and have intellectual access to.
 
This was not off in some silly-ville of paganism or fantasy; it was located concretely in the history we are in and so its characteristics were definitive for us.
 
Its creation showed rational causality and propositional (intelligible) content, with a clear dependency sequence, starting with the general energy field (light). Each day's action rejecting 'chance' and showing its own teleological arc. Something NDE fails in at every point.
 
It shows that we, created 'like' the creator, are able to correspondingly (or conjointly) examine the world which we are to rightly govern/subdue/superintend/steward (none of which means 'exploit', degrade or destroy), gain knowledge and convert this to communicable and intelligible propositions.
 
The basis for this is a confidence in the constancy of the world at some level, regularity and rationality of material processes, and reliability of our cognitive faculties to understand the world as deeply as we can go.
 
There is no limit because we are confident that the world is entirely explicable. A 'designed' world encourages this, a random world jeopardizes the project before it starts.
 
This mission is encouraged because we are also confident that we have a purposeful role in the purposeful world: we have an in-built teleological sense that encourages the worthiness of the project.
 
So, Genesis 1-2 is not a science text, per se. Rather it is the text that explains why science is possible at all, worthwhile and within our grasp.
 
It demonstrates this where Adam is asked to name various animals brought to him. Those sitting on the village idiot fence always get this wrong. Name follows 'understand'. Adam necessarily observed, understood, evaluated and classified in one way or another. The first example of empirical science that we have. All other science has followed this pattern.