Wednesday, September 19, 2018

Dead or hell?

I was at an Anglican confirmation service which featured a few surprises:
  1. One of the confirmation candidates was a Hebrew scholar and university lecturer.
  2. I was surprised that R, who I'd known in another parish, was a bishop...I had not hitherto connected R I had occasional times with and the R who I did know was a (now retired) bishop. 
  3. We recited the new look Apostles' Creed.
The flash new creed












Some of the language I liked, some I didn't.

My favourite version is the Australian Anglican Prayer Book

The AAPB creed




















On occassion, the Book of Common Prayer version suits; however, not often.

The BCP creed      

 

All up, I dislike 'creator' instead of 'maker' in the second line; it seems to beckon an idealist theology; maker seems more direct, concrete and realist.

'was crucified, died, and was buried' seems odd, grammatically in the new version. It's all past perfect (completed action) and so, 'was crucified, [was] dead and [was] buried' is better.

And, let's keep 'holy catholic church' and not let the accidents of history separate the church into 'bits'. We are all Christ's, together. If we don't like the word 'catholic' let's say 'holy church universal'

'Descended into hell' is argued against on the basis of there being no scriptural warrant for this. Perhaps; but I can see the logic: Christ was forsaken by the Father and died. Where else did he go? OTOH, as God the Son, how could he be in 'hell' separated from God when he is God? 'Descended to the dead' does seem better.

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